Comments on: Fun and Games with Major Updates (addendum) http://oduinn.com/blog/2009/03/05/fun-and-games-with-major-updates-addendum/ Wed, 16 May 2012 01:47:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: John O’Duinn’s Soapbox » Major update to Firefox 3.5 http://oduinn.com/blog/2009/03/05/fun-and-games-with-major-updates-addendum/#comment-33407 John O’Duinn’s Soapbox » Major update to Firefox 3.5 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:17:46 +0000 http://oduinn.com/2009/03/05/fun-and-games-with-major-updates-addendum/#comment-33407 [...] (For details on race conditions where people dont see the major update dialog box and on the “update fatigue” debate, see: here, here, here, here, and finally here.) 3) Nick Thomas led a bunch of significant cleanup in RelEng infrastructure, so we can now create major updates quite easily and reliably. [...] [...] (For details on race conditions where people dont see the major update dialog box and on the “update fatigue” debate, see: here, here, here, here, and finally here.) 3) Nick Thomas led a bunch of significant cleanup in RelEng infrastructure, so we can now create major updates quite easily and reliably. [...]

]]> By: John O’Duinn’s Soapbox » Fun and Games with Major Updates (some new options) http://oduinn.com/blog/2009/03/05/fun-and-games-with-major-updates-addendum/#comment-23356 John O’Duinn’s Soapbox » Fun and Games with Major Updates (some new options) Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:23:51 +0000 http://oduinn.com/2009/03/05/fun-and-games-with-major-updates-addendum/#comment-23356 [...] After the last few blog posts [1], [2], [3] explaining details of some gotchas, here are a few mechanical ideas which might help. I’m not sure which, if any, make sense to try, but wanted to point out some new options we have available to us now after infrastructure improvements over the last year, and would love to hear what people thought. [...] [...] After the last few blog posts [1], [2], [3] explaining details of some gotchas, here are a few mechanical ideas which might help. I’m not sure which, if any, make sense to try, but wanted to point out some new options we have available to us now after infrastructure improvements over the last year, and would love to hear what people thought. [...]

]]> By: John O’Duinn’s Soapbox » Fun and Games with Major Updates (followup) http://oduinn.com/blog/2009/03/05/fun-and-games-with-major-updates-addendum/#comment-23307 John O’Duinn’s Soapbox » Fun and Games with Major Updates (followup) Mon, 09 Mar 2009 10:04:55 +0000 http://oduinn.com/2009/03/05/fun-and-games-with-major-updates-addendum/#comment-23307 [...] There were lots of comments and questions raised from the last two blog posts [1] [2]. As some people were asking variations of the same questions, I thought it would be less confusing to summarize the questions and answers all here instead of replying in comment threads. Please let me know if I missed any of the comments, or misunderstood the questions, ok? [...] [...] There were lots of comments and questions raised from the last two blog posts [1] [2]. As some people were asking variations of the same questions, I thought it would be less confusing to summarize the questions and answers all here instead of replying in comment threads. Please let me know if I missed any of the comments, or misunderstood the questions, ok? [...]

]]> By: John http://oduinn.com/blog/2009/03/05/fun-and-games-with-major-updates-addendum/#comment-23304 John Mon, 09 Mar 2009 09:11:45 +0000 http://oduinn.com/2009/03/05/fun-and-games-with-major-updates-addendum/#comment-23304 "I typically browse as a non-administrator, which is generally considered good practice for security reasons, but it means I don’t get any notification of security updates. Comment by Matthew Wilson" Matthew: Fair enough. But continuing on the "good practice for security", you are also periodically logging in as Administrator, and applying all the o.s., Firefox, and other pending security updates, right? take care John. “I typically browse as a non-administrator, which is generally considered good practice for security reasons, but it means I don’t get any notification of security updates.
Comment by Matthew Wilson”

Matthew: Fair enough. But continuing on the “good practice for security”, you are also periodically logging in as Administrator, and applying all the o.s., Firefox, and other pending security updates, right?

take care
John.

]]> By: John http://oduinn.com/blog/2009/03/05/fun-and-games-with-major-updates-addendum/#comment-23303 John Mon, 09 Mar 2009 09:09:53 +0000 http://oduinn.com/2009/03/05/fun-and-games-with-major-updates-addendum/#comment-23303 "I heard of people that have been upgraded to FF3 despite their OS not being supported. I don’t know how this happens or happened, but somehow they did get an update that didn’t work on their system and were somewhat pissed off. Unfortunately, I have no idea how this can happen when we explicitly try to avoid it. Comment by Robert Kaiser" Robert: Is it possible that those people manually downloaded and installed FF3 over FF2, without realizing that their o.s. was unsupported in FF3 until it was too late? Or maybe is it possible that those people were accidentally on the beta channel, getting FF3.0 betas before the release - I think we had a timewindow where people on beta could get FF3betas without the o.s. version check, but that was fixed long before we started doing major update offers, iirc. If they really did get a Firefox update notification, while running on a de-supported o.s., please do file a bug on this. It would be really bad news, and we'd need to get on it right away. thanks John. “I heard of people that have been upgraded to FF3 despite their OS not being supported. I don’t know how this happens or happened, but somehow they did get an update that didn’t work on their system and were somewhat pissed off. Unfortunately, I have no idea how this can happen when we explicitly try to avoid it.
Comment by Robert Kaiser”

Robert:

Is it possible that those people manually downloaded and installed FF3 over FF2, without realizing that their o.s. was unsupported in FF3 until it was too late? Or maybe is it possible that those people were accidentally on the beta channel, getting FF3.0 betas before the release – I think we had a timewindow where people on beta could get FF3betas without the o.s. version check, but that was fixed long before we started doing major update offers, iirc.

If they really did get a Firefox update notification, while running on a de-supported o.s., please do file a bug on this. It would be really bad news, and we’d need to get on it right away.

thanks
John.

]]> By: Robert Kaiser http://oduinn.com/blog/2009/03/05/fun-and-games-with-major-updates-addendum/#comment-23051 Robert Kaiser Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:40:25 +0000 http://oduinn.com/2009/03/05/fun-and-games-with-major-updates-addendum/#comment-23051 I heard of people that have been upgraded to FF3 despite their OS not being supported. I don't know how this happens or happened, but somehow they did get an update that didn't work on their system and were somewhat pissed off. Unfortunately, I have no idea how this can happen when we explicitly try to avoid it. I heard of people that have been upgraded to FF3 despite their OS not being supported. I don’t know how this happens or happened, but somehow they did get an update that didn’t work on their system and were somewhat pissed off. Unfortunately, I have no idea how this can happen when we explicitly try to avoid it.

]]> By: Matthew Wilson http://oduinn.com/blog/2009/03/05/fun-and-games-with-major-updates-addendum/#comment-23045 Matthew Wilson Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:51:40 +0000 http://oduinn.com/2009/03/05/fun-and-games-with-major-updates-addendum/#comment-23045 I typically browse as a non-administrator, which is generally considered good practice for security reasons, but it means I don't get any notification of security updates. I typically browse as a non-administrator, which is generally considered good practice for security reasons, but it means I don’t get any notification of security updates.

]]> By: John O’Duinn’s Soapbox » Fun and Games with Major Updates http://oduinn.com/blog/2009/03/05/fun-and-games-with-major-updates-addendum/#comment-23033 John O’Duinn’s Soapbox » Fun and Games with Major Updates Fri, 06 Mar 2009 11:11:17 +0000 http://oduinn.com/2009/03/05/fun-and-games-with-major-updates-addendum/#comment-23033 [...] UPDATE: I accidentally dropped some important disclaimers. See this follow-on blogpost for details. Sorry for any confusion. John 06mar2009 [...] [...] UPDATE: I accidentally dropped some important disclaimers. See this follow-on blogpost for details. Sorry for any confusion. John 06mar2009 [...]

]]> By: Fowl http://oduinn.com/blog/2009/03/05/fun-and-games-with-major-updates-addendum/#comment-23011 Fowl Fri, 06 Mar 2009 07:40:15 +0000 http://oduinn.com/2009/03/05/fun-and-games-with-major-updates-addendum/#comment-23011 Would it be possible to show a message telling people who specifically check why no update is available? (ie. Unsupported OS or no admin privileges.) Would it be possible to show a message telling people who specifically check why no update is available? (ie. Unsupported OS or no admin privileges.)

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